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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 11, 2011 11:55:29 GMT -5
For the first time ever, the last two episodes of a season of Deadliest Warrior will be shown back-to-back this Wednesday! Two-and-a-half hours of pure devastation, starting at 9/8c. Don't miss it!
The first battle will be the French Foreign Legion, a special ops force of the French Army boasting multiracial soldiers, intense training, and strong esprit de corps, versus the Gurkhas, an elite group of soldiers possessing their own regiment within the Nepalese Army. Who is deadliest?
The second battle will be the first battle to ever involve fictional entities... which is somewhat interesting, but I personally feel that they're jumping the shark a bit here. At any rate, only one horror icon will stand at the end, but whom? The vampire, an undead, blood-sucking, superhuman wraith straight out of European folklore? Or the zombie, an undead, lumbering corpse hungry for human flesh?
Sound off below. You can vote twice, once for each faction you think will win in their respective episodes.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 11, 2011 12:32:22 GMT -5
They may be jumping the shark, but at least these entities are world-renowned. Anyway, this is sure to be interesting. I'm going to make sure I don't miss it.
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 12, 2011 14:35:41 GMT -5
Cool, cool. Hopefully, they'll find a way to make "Vampire vs. Zombie" work without it being gay.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 12, 2011 20:11:12 GMT -5
I'm sure they'll keep it masculine.
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 12, 2011 20:43:17 GMT -5
Let's hope so. And let's also hope that the vampire and zombie don't look cheesy in the simulation.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 12, 2011 20:51:05 GMT -5
Yeah. If they use computer animation rather than real people, I'm going to be disappointed.
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 12, 2011 21:04:03 GMT -5
Very disappointed.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 13, 2011 14:14:37 GMT -5
Lol. We'll see, though.
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 13, 2011 15:48:24 GMT -5
May I inquire as to why you believe the zombie will win?
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 14, 2011 10:43:10 GMT -5
Zombies don't carry blood, they're just dry flesh and bone with one purpose: to feast on their live counterparts. The vampire won't be able to use his or her teeth to suck any fluid out of the zombie, and it thus won't take damage. Zombies can also "survive" with missing limbs, even without their head. The only thing I'm worried about is how the zombie will attack. From the movies I've seen, zombies just walk (in groups) very slowly and eat cornered victims; they can't punch, kick, scratch, or anything else of that caliber. Unless DW has a trick up their sleeve, or they use a "false" zombie (as in a human that's infected rather than undead, in which he or she would have blood, but superhuman qualities like fast running speed and the ability to jump very far).
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 14, 2011 22:40:20 GMT -5
Very nice points, but if you caught the episodes tonight, you should know whether they held up or not. Care for... wow, it just hit me. This is the last time I'll be able to do this. Care for... my last well-worded spoiler? ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 14, 2011 23:17:18 GMT -5
I caught Vampires vs. Zombies, but not the first one. -_- Please, do spoil. I don't think it's your last, unless DW is ending forever.
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 15, 2011 15:55:28 GMT -5
Well, yeah, I just meant for the last time this season. I'm sure a fourth one will be produced, but it'll likely be a while before then. Anyway, let's get down to business.
In the first battle, the Gurkhas won. Although the French Foreign Legion had a greater light machine gun and battle tactics, the Gurkhas' Lee-Enfield bolt-action rifle and Kukri knife got the edge in mid and close range, respectively. The FFL's BAR got the edge over the Gurkhas' Bren for being more mechanically reliable, as well as having superior range and accuracy, but neither the MAS-36 bolt-action rifle nor the Camillus knife could match up against the Gurkhas' other weapons. The Lee-Enfield got the edge for having a larger magazine and faster reload, while the Kukri got the edge for its longer blade.
As far as X-Factors go, the FFL had greater Training and Psychological Warfare, but these advantages were outdone by the Gurkhas' greater Discipline and Physicality. This is especially true for the latter, as the Gurkhas grew up in a much harsher climate, dealing with steep, uphill climbs, as well as thinner oxygen, in their mountain homes. The harsh deserts that the FFL trained in just couldn't compare, and this ultimately tipped the battle in the Gurkhas' favor.
In the second battle, the Vampires won. From the very beginning, the crew made it clear that, in a one-on-one fight, the Zombie wouldn't stand a chance. Therefore, to even out the odds, they composed a "Ring of Death" test with the Vampire Claws, to determine how many Zombies a Vampire could take out on average before being overtaken by the horde. Leif Becker took out nine out of twelve Zombies, which the crew then multiplied by six (to represent the Vampire's superhuman speed), producing a result of 54 out of 72 Zombies destroyed, which averages out to 63. Thus, the ratio of Zombies to Vampires for the simulated battle would be 63:1, which worried me at first, but began to make sense as I truly got a grip of what the Vampire was capable of.
The Vampire's Bite and Claws proved to be effective weapons, especially the Claws. However, unlike previous episodes, no "weapon" got an edge during testing. Although the Zombie's Hands could rip through flesh and eventually tear out the Vampire's heart in 58 seconds, that was nothing compared to what the Vampire's Claws could do. The Claws were able to pierce a Zombie's skull and destroy the brain in only one second. Combine this with the Vampire's incredible speed, and you'll end up with a lot of dead Zombies in a short amount of time. Even the Zombie's Chomp was outdone. Although it could cause a Vampire to bleed out in two minutes, a Vampire's Bite could pierce the Zombie's skull and destroy the brain with only two bites in five seconds.
The Vampire dominated testing, but the Zombie had the advantage in the majority of X-Factors. It had slight edges in Brutality and Feeding Instinct, but what really impressed me was the Zombie's perfect score of 100 in Endurance, which certainly makes sense. As Max Brooks pointed out, Zombies are uninhibited by normal human sensations, such as pain and fatigue. As such, they can literally keep going forever, even going so far as to destroy themselves to get to their prey. But what did them in was their pitifully low score in Intelligence, scoring only a 9. Much like how Zombies are immune to pain and fatigue, they're also incapable of thought and emotion; they're literally mindless killing machines. Vampires, in contrast, scored a 93 in Intelligence, as they are capable of thought and emotion. That being said, the myth of Vampires being solitary monsters was debunked by Steve Niles and his book, 30 Days of Night. Vampires can work together, much like wolves in a pack, and as such, they are able to strategize and devise the best tactics possible to get to their prey. This was yet another decisive advantage for the Vampire, and only added to its already impressive traits and abilities.
The simulation was, surprisingly, very well done. It even had a grainy visage, to complete the classic horror film vibe. They ended up pitting 189 Zombies against just three Vampires, but after the devastation I beheld, trust me, the Zombies needed all the help they could get. Just one Vampire was able to take out 78 Zombies all by himself before the horde overtook him and ripped his heart out. The other two Vampires were able to take out 61 Zombies together, before the female one got bitten on the neck and eventually bled out, leaving the last Vampire to deal with the remaining 50, and boy did he. I also like how they paid attention to the little things during the simulation, like how the last Vampire tried to exit the building, but went back inside when he noticed the rising sun. That was pretty neat. At any rate, the last Vampire cleaned house and took out the last two Zombies like a boss, especially the last one, who got thrown up against the wall after taking a slash to the head, leaving a nice blood splatter on the wall where he made contact. Although the Vampires won, the ending was ambiguous, as the last few minutes of the show revealed the Zombie virus taking over the last Vampire's body, turning him into a Zombie-Vampire hybrid (although, as it was pointed out in the Aftermath, this is not so badass of a combination, as the "Zombie-Vamp" would just lumber foolishly into the sunlight and die).
Overall, I came into this episode highly skeptical, but left highly impressed. They really paid attention to every last detail, including the proper ways to kill a Vampire and Zombie. I'm also overjoyed that they used Steve Niles' 30 Days of Night Vampires, and not Stephanie Meyer's Twilight Vampires. I would've been pissed beyond belief if they had used the latter. It was also a learning experience, concerning both monsters. I never knew Vampires could be that badass. Don't get me wrong, I never underestimated them, but I never imagined that they'd practically be the best of the animal kingdom combined into the ultimate, apex predator. Superhuman strength, speed, senses, and intelligence. Who could ask for anything more? The Vampire was a very impressive warrior, and I'm not at all surprised that they won. They made the last stand of the 300 look like amateur hour.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Sept 15, 2011 16:30:44 GMT -5
I, too, was impressed and satisfied, even though the zombies lost. Considering the facts I had aforementioned, I was afraid the zombie stood no chance, and that the fight would be unorthodox and boring. But they took into consideration every aspect of each warrior, like the zombie's ability to break the limit normal humans put on themselves and use strength and persistence beyond such, and the vampire's superhuman abilities (speed and strength). I expected the two male vampires in the simulation to be dressed in clothing typical of the vampires you've seen in the classic movies, but I was surprised to see that their attire somewhat matched that of the vampires from the Blade movies. Added to that, like you, I am more than glad that Twilight vampires weren't used. I would have shut off my TV at the sight of any glittery pale faggot... well, not before I would see that they were ripped to shreds by zombies, of course.
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Post by GalaxiaD on Sept 15, 2011 20:34:01 GMT -5
Lol, the zombies would've won for sure if they were fighting Twilight vampires. The battle wouldn't even last a minute, and if I had to watch it all over again, and see them rip those queers apart all over again, I would still watch it all over again. I'd watch it all over again, I'd watch it fifteen times over again. If there were fifteen of those faggots coming at the zombies every time, I would still watch it all over again.
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